iongaming33@aim.com

So let's get a little fact-check going here. Chernarus (+), is 225 sq. kilometers. Altis is 270 sq. kilometers. Stratis is 20 sq. kilometers, not even a tenth of the size of Chernarus.

My thoughts exactly, just a little better-worded :D

I fully support "buried" tents, especially if they give us only one model like the original mod. I hid those babies in rocks & all sorts of other places that survived even through the script-kiddie swarm. I'm just wondering if your opening sentence is legit or not. I'm not one for keeping up on reddit & such but are tents actually going to be in 0.48? If so I'll be playing 0.48 quite a bit!

Or you could, say, maybe fix the game instead of removing an important element of the game.

Not entirely sure if that was directed at me but if so you clearly don't understand my view. Nobody said helicopters should be easy to attain/maintain, I said quite the opposite. Also we're not talking about gunships. Not sure why you're so disgruntled, I sincerely apologize if I have offended you with my topic, I never meant to be a special snowflake. This isn't a 6th grade popularity contest or whatever you're making it out to be, I just want to have a discussion, if you don't want to be a part of it, don't be.

Yeah man we're all in agreement there. Helis in SA should be very hard to fix and maintain. It should be an endgame goal that takes a long time to accomplish, but the reward is great. Some people just decided that they wanted to be done with the whole idea of helis altogether.

Okay, so your survivor shouldn't know how to fly a helicopter? Tell me how he can strip an M4, AKM, use an IV line, gut & cook every animal in Chernarus, do anything mechanical on cars, sstring a bow & fishing rod, or anything else that your survivor can do. That is what RDog was saying.

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Knew someone was gonna have a go at that as soon as I wrote it haha. What I mean is the people crying that armed helis are OP because they got killed by it once or they were driving and one swept in and sprayed their vehicle. I'm talking about the rarity of a gunner hitting somebody without spraying, or having the pilot hover to get a shot.

Stay on topic? The topic is about armed helicopters, the first 3 pages are off topic. helicopters are going to be in this game, that is confirmed. I'm not saying that cannot change, but it's looking like helicopters will have their presence in the game. The topic was about helis with guns.

Then don't! If you have no interest in helicopters then don't! Just play the game like you normally would. If you don't want one don't put in the work.

That's the point. They will hopefully be very rare, and a very huge pain in the arse to fix. It SHOULD be impractical for a scrappy group of unorganized survivors. This stuff should take a ton of effort, they should almost make it not worth fixing one. But if a group does decide to fix one, it should be hell to do it. It's endgame.

I knew what he meant, and I'm all for the beach babes, but I was speaking more on the point I made at the end of that post. If they're in the game, (which they will be, unless something drastically changes the team's mind) people are going to use them.

"Who the fuck would bother with a helicopter in this situation unless they were leaving?" I would, as I did in the mod, to get where I needed to go, to kill who I needed to kill. As far as flight knowledge, I think that's where I draw the line. If I'm Joe Blow tourist to Russia, how the fuck do I know how to take apart an M4, AKM, fix up a car, use an IV bag, gut an animal, cook every type of animal on Chernarus, make a bow, fish with a stuck, and everything else you can do. Maybe YOU know how to do some of this stuff, I can promise you that the entire 2 miillion population of DayZ doesn't. If you're going to sit here and say, "Hmmm, let's only put things in this game that your average person would know how to do.", then you're stuck with TurnOnYourComputerStartDayzArgueOnForums Simulator 2014. DayZ is a game, it's an authentic game, but it's a game. It's built off a mil-sim and has diverse levels of complexity, but it's a game. ask the dev team, it's a game. Tell me how every survivor in Chernarus can do everything else before you tell me he can't fly a helicopter.

They add everything that helicopters can do. They add quick transport, they add CAS, they add looting strategies, they add interactive opportunities. I guess I should've been more straightforward in my previous post. Have you ever played Take on Helicopters? Did you know that DayZ's engine is a modified Take on Helicopters engine? Did you know that whenever helis were brought up to dean, he said that they were going to be not only complicated to fix, but complicated to use. Why would they not make it more complex when that is the drive of this entire game? Tents, Vehicles, AND helis would already be in the game if they were just going to be the same, if they weren't going to be revamped. everything is going to be more complex, and that is why we have to wait for it.