.44 Magnum Revolver

[dddJewelsbbb 3]

Every zombie game is in need of a .44 Magnum. And no, not everybody has to be a Barry Burton. But denying the .44 Magnum as a popular home defense weapon that you would realistically find when raiding houses for guns is silly.

 

Of course, ammo may be hard to find, and recoil would be rather large compared to its .357 counterpart, but the .44 packs the largest punch that you should find in a civilian household in Chernarus.

 

A .44 wouldn't be the best idea for killing zombies because of the loud caliber, but it surely will drop any zombie that you need with no problem.

 

If I'm correct, and there is no .44 Magnum suggestion, I cannot understand why there isn't.

 

 

The suggested realistic model for the .44 Magnum revolver, in my opinion, should be the Smith & Wesson Model 29 (also included in the video) as it is considered to be the .44 of all .44's. (Yeah, you got Rugers and Colts chambered in .44, but nothing sticks out more than the S&W - think Dirty Harry). The considerable factor that makes this gun the prime choice, however, is not Dirty Harry, but early production and lots of it, leaving it to be one of the most popular - if not the most popular - .44 magnum of all time.

Edited February 25, 2015 by dddJewelsbbb

[DURRHUNTER 597]

That new ammo type tho...

and .44 is only in revolvers and leverguns, not much else.

there is barely a difference between .44 and .357 other than the .44 is a tad fatter.

[trujuice 56]

there is barely a difference between .44 and .357 other than the .44 is a tad fatter.

That tad fatter means the difference from 180 grains and 220 grains which is roughly 20% more power.

[DURRHUNTER 597]

That tad fatter means the difference from 180 grains and 220 grains which is roughly 20% more power.

but thats it, nearly the same trajectory, more powder doesnt necessarily mean a better cartridge, just more FPS when it come out of the barrel.

Edited February 25, 2015 by DURRHUNTER

[trujuice 56]

That 20% equates to longer range before bullet drop and faster speeds. Now I will concede that because of the larger caliber bullet/weight these may be negated to being equal to that of the small round. However, end of the day the amount of lead reaching the target is larger and when you are trying to take down large animals that matters! 

[Tatanko 5591]

It's an okay idea, I just don't see it being worth the trouble to add it to the game. It wouldn't really add any value to the current pool of weapons. If you want to take down groups of zombies, the .357 is already available with plentiful ammo. If it's hunting you're looking to do, the Longhorn is the best tool for the job and uses an even more ideal round than the .44.

[star-lord252 83]

Well I like 44 magnum better than 357 but I like this idea we need more revolvers many people get revolvers because of just how they are. If we get .44 we can get more revolvers and those who like the desert eagle to much the desert 44 which I believe is better than .50 action express variant.

[dddJewelsbbb 3]

That new ammo type tho...

and .44 is only in revolvers and leverguns, not much else.

there is barely a difference between .44 and .357 other than the .44 is a tad fatter.

And yes, it is only a tad fatter, but the .45 and 9 mil are almost equal in size difference in .357 and .44.

 

Also, pistol ammo only has use in pistols and SMG's. So there's only two things to put them in as well.

[dddJewelsbbb 3]

It's an okay idea, I just don't see it being worth the trouble to add it to the game. It wouldn't really add any value to the current pool of weapons. If you want to take down groups of zombies, the .357 is already available with plentiful ammo. If it's hunting you're looking to do, the Longhorn is the best tool for the job and uses an even more ideal round than the .44.

 

Nothing makes survival horror like an extra caliber that will make the game slightly more difficult (due to adding scarcity to your caliber) and giving an option for a new caliber to hunt for.

[Chaingunfighter 917]

I don't see the point. The caliber isn't very realistic to the region, it doesn't really bring anything new to the table gun-wise (basically just more redundant revolvers and lever actions), and it wouldn't perform differently enough to the standard .357 Magnum cartridge to make any difference in the game. Plus, nearly every .44 revolver that really matters and would be acceptable in the world exists in .357, so the workload to create a new caliber just because is unnecessary.

 

And if they really feel the need to do another lever-action rifle they could do a lot more with something like the Winchester M1895 which fires an actual full power rifle round, rather than just a slightly more powerful magnum cartridge.

 

Nothing makes survival horror like an extra caliber that will make the game slightly more difficult (due to adding scarcity to your caliber) and giving an option for a new caliber to hunt for.

 

Your exact points are some of the reasons why we don't have a large amount of calibers, especially ones that are just thrown in for no good reason. I mean, difficulty probably has little to do with it but the devs seem to agree on the fact that adding new ammunition calibers should only be done if it actually offers something new. .44 Magnum doesn't do anything significant you can't do with .357, it'd just be a different class of the same weapons with more damage but harder to find ammo.

 

I'm all for caliber diversity but I'd rather they make ones that would make a difference, like 7.62x25 and a split between .308 and 7.62x54R.

 

Well I like 44 magnum better than 357 but I like this idea we need more revolvers many people get revolvers because of just how they are. If we get .44 we can get more revolvers and those who like the desert eagle to much the desert 44 which I believe is better than .50 action express variant.

 

Desert Eagles exist in .357 Magnum as well, so there would be no need to add a new caliber. It doesn't matter, though, the Desert Eagle is way too out of place and it's made worse by the fact that it is very largely represented in modern media and thus feels even more out of place.

[star-lord252 83]

I don't see the point. The caliber isn't very realistic to the region, it doesn't really bring anything new to the table gun-wise (basically just more redundant revolvers and lever actions), and it wouldn't perform differently enough to the standard .357 Magnum cartridge to make any difference in the game. Plus, nearly every .44 revolver that really matters and would be acceptable in the world exists in .357, so the workload to create a new caliber just because is unnecessary.

And if they really feel the need to do another lever-action rifle they could do a lot more with something like the Winchester M1895 which fires an actual full power rifle round, rather than just a slightly more powerful magnum cartridge.

Your exact points are some of the reasons why we don't have a large amount of calibers, especially ones that are just thrown in for no good reason. I mean, difficulty probably has little to do with it but the devs seem to agree on the fact that adding new ammunition calibers should only be done if it actually offers something new. .44 Magnum doesn't do anything significant you can't do with .357, it'd just be a different class of the same weapons with more damage but harder to find ammo.

I'm all for caliber diversity but I'd rather they make ones that would make a difference, like 7.62x25 and a split between .308 and 7.62x54R.

Desert Eagles exist in .357 Magnum as well, so there would be no need to add a new caliber. It doesn't matter, though, the Desert Eagle is way too out of place and it's made worse by the fact that it is very largely represented in modern media and thus feels even more out of place.

there's more guns I know of for the 44 magnum cartridge though, the .357 is pretty out of place too and the colt python. Itl be fine if we have both calibers aside with each other since .357 is so common and we can get more revolvers if .44 comes in. And I really don't feel a need for the desert eagle to come in unless its heli loot or a rare civilian spawn I know that a lot of people like the desert eagle I do to it looks badass but I'd rather get a revolver than a desert eagle anytime. The only good reason to not add .44 is if there going to give more revolvers in .357 but good ones and more than one.

[Chaingunfighter 917]

there's more guns I know of for the 44 magnum cartridge though, the .357 is pretty out of place too and the colt python. Itl be fine if we have both calibers aside with each other since .357 is so common and we can get more revolvers if .44 comes in. And I really don't feel a need for the desert eagle to come in unless its heli loot or a rare civilian spawn I know that a lot of people like the desert eagle I do to it looks badass but I'd rather get a revolver than a desert eagle anytime. The only good reason to not add .44 is if there going to give more revolvers in .357 but good ones and more than one.

.44 Magnum doesn't really bring anything to the table that .357 doesn't. I mean, the vast majority of guns that are made in .44 Magnum nowadays usually have a nearly identical .357 analogue.

 

Hell, this Smith & Wesson Model 27 looks almost exactly like the Model 29 he showed previously, so if they really want to go Dirty Harry style they still can without needing to add a new ammunition caliber.

 

I'm not saying .357 Magnum is very realistic either, but it's more believable than .44 Magnum and is used in a considerable number of Eastern revolvers. For the choice of a magnum cartridge .357 was obviously the best contender.

 

Desert Eagle wouldn't make sense in any real context. I mean, it is used by Polish GROM special forces, so technically it makes more sense than some guns we have now, but the aesthetic feels really out of place, not so much the gun. The only good reason to add .44 is for more guns that .357 already has covered. Otherwise, it's just unnecessary and the work needed to implement it wouldn't be worthwhile.

[gibonez 3633]

Don't see the point and not realistic for the region.

A better approach at simulating the .44 magnums benefits would be to add .38 special in the game then make .357 magnum hard to find and raise it's lethality closer to it's real world values.

.38 special and .357 magnum usually function in the same weapons so there would be no need for additional weapons to justify the ammo addition unlike 44 mag

[DURRHUNTER 597]

.38 special and .357 magnum usually function in the same weapons so there would be no need for additional weapons to justify the ammo addition unlike 44 mag

yep. your right.

.38 special is really just a step down in length, powder, and bullet.

Edited February 26, 2015 by DURRHUNTER

[star-lord252 83]

.44 Magnum doesn't really bring anything to the table that .357 doesn't. I mean, the vast majority of guns that are made in .44 Magnum nowadays usually have a nearly identical .357 analogue.

Hell, this Smith & Wesson Model 27 looks almost exactly like the Model 29 he showed previously, so if they really want to go Dirty Harry style they still can without needing to add a new ammunition caliber.

I'm not saying .357 Magnum is very realistic either, but it's more believable than .44 Magnum and is used in a considerable number of Eastern revolvers. For the choice of a magnum cartridge .357 was obviously the best contender.

Desert Eagle wouldn't make sense in any real context. I mean, it is used by Polish GROM special forces, so technically it makes more sense than some guns we have now, but the aesthetic feels really out of place, not so much the gun. The only good reason to add .44 is for more guns that .357 already has covered. Otherwise, it's just unnecessary and the work needed to implement it wouldn't be worthwhile.

you got me there I really don't care for the desert eagle the only reason I like it is because it looks awesome. @gibonez also said .38 special will go better and I'll have to agree .38 still will give us plenty more revolvers and we can access mini revolvers like the Ruger LCR. Edited February 27, 2015 by DaNic2553

[dddJewelsbbb 3]

Don't see the point and not realistic for the region.

A better approach at simulating the .44 magnums benefits would be to add .38 special in the game then make .357 magnum hard to find and raise it's lethality closer to it's real world values.

.38 special and .357 magnum usually function in the same weapons so there would be no need for additional weapons to justify the ammo addition unlike 44 mag

 

Well, if you didn't know, in 1870 (and at several points thereafter), Smith and Wesson produced .44 Russian cartridges, sold .44 magnums and their cartridges in abundance to Russian military. Maybe this specific model is more out of place than its predecessor, but a .44 chambered gun isn't out of place. The .44 Magnum round was considered at the time of its release an exceptionally accurate round and praised worldwide for such clams.

 

And, the point would be to add another weapon and caliber to choose from, all the while increasing the survival horror. What real world apocalypse has only slightly more than 10 calibers to choose from? I mean, if people want realism, expect to be riddled with ammunition that you can't use or can't find a gun for.