shotgun slugs, different barrels, and different gauges

[d.walker43 196]

Hey guys, So my suggestion today is some different variation of shotguns and their parts and ammo. In real life, there is different types of ammo, different barrels for firing said ammo, different gauges of ammo, etc. My suggestion is some variation and attachments for shotguns. This may also require some other shotguns besides the 2 current ones.

 

Different Ammo http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=different%20shotgun%20shots

in real life, there is different types of ammo used in shotguns, the 2 big ones are obviously pellets and slugs, but there are more specific types within these 2 categories. For example, within pellets there is bird-shot, buck-shot, heavy pellets, small pellets, etc. Each one has their own specific use, for example if you have smaller pellets, theres more there but they don't have as much individual stopping power. Bigger pellets sometimes only have like 5 pellets in a shell, but each pellet has far more power. Slugs are basically just individual bullets that travel much farther, but obviously don't have as much spread. Different types are used in different types of hunting, for example pellets are used in goose hunting, while slugs are used in deer hunting. Would be good for not only different types of hunting once more animals are added but also just to add some variation.

 

Different Barrels   http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=mossberg

In order to fire different types of ammo out of your shotgun, different barrels are required. Irl, these are bought separately from your shotgun, and you can attach whichever one you need for the specific hunting your doing. In game, different barrels could be found as uncommon loot, and kept as needed.

 

Different Gauges  http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=different+shotgun+gauges

basically different caliber versions of shotguns. The most common one is 12 gauge, followed by 20 gauge, 4/10, and 10 gauge. There may be some other oddball ones out there, but these are probably the most common. If the game included a 20 and a 4/10 along with the 12 already in id be happy. 10 is most powerful of the ones I listed, followed by 12, then 20, then 4/10. 12 gauge is used for hunting and such, 4/10 is basically a childs gun. Some manufacturers make different gauge versions of the same exact gun, for example the Mossberg 500 has a 12 gauge, 20 gauge, and also pump and automatic versions, all of the same exact gun. They all look pretty much identical, except they shoot smaller/bigger shots. This would be good in game, because smaller gauges would be quieter and a little smaller, and would add more diversity.

 

I understand that if this was added, it would be later in development, as more high priority tasks need to be worked on. However, if you are a hunter/outdoorsman you understand the importance of shotguns, and the importance of using the correct ammo, barrel, gauge, etc. for the task at hand. Id like to hear feedback from you guys, thanks for your time. Any thoughts on this are appreciated, also please point out any errors in my post so I can fix them, thanks again.

[Insaniac (DayZ) 235]

I personally don't see the need for shotguns with different calibers, or for a dozen different types of ammo.

 

Having said that, a basic selection of "buckshot", "Birdshot" and "Slugs" would be nice.

[SaveMeJebus 164]

I'm all for some variety but one of the great things about shotguns is that I can go take 4 different types of shells (caliber aside) and fire them all out of the same weapon with NO need to swap barrels or modify the weapon.  Specific barrels can be nice for specific situations don't get me wrong but especially with the shells made today you dont HAVE to have a rifled barrel for slugs, but maybe some barrel chokes to effect shot spread would be neat since there is nothing to go in suppressor slot anyways.

[preacherlr 614]

 4/10 is basically a childs gun. 

So much nope.

[d.walker43 196]

So much nope.

 

1: Please keep posts constructive and having a point to them.

 

2: care to elaborate as to why my statement is "so much nope"?

[Geckofrog7 1168]

I know it's stupid, impractical, and 99.99% likely that it would never be added, but wouldn't dragon's breath be cool?

Maybe something for the future modding community to consider, just for fun.

Edited November 14, 2014 by Geckofrog7

[preacherlr 614]

1: Please keep posts constructive and having a point to them.

 

2: care to elaborate as to why my statement is "so much nope"?

Inside of 10 meters, it'll put a fist sized hole in you. 

It has more kick/recoil then quiet a few guns which are considered firearms ideal for use by children.

At best, It's a good alternative for children if they're required to use a shotgun for something.

However it's far from " A child's gun ".

Not even mentioning 3 inch " Magnum " shells here.

[SaveMeJebus 164]

Inside of 10 meters, it'll put a fist sized hole in you. 

It has more kick/recoil then quiet a few guns which are considered firearms ideal for use by children.

At best, It's a good alternative for children if they're required to use a shotgun for something.

However it's far from " A child's gun ".

Not even mentioning 3 inch " Magnum " shells here.

While I don't really think the term "childs gun" is quite right here (maybe starter shotgun would have been better?) it's really no need to get an attitude with him he is partially correct, I personally started with a 4/10 bird hunting when I was 9 and it is a very common gauge for hunters to teach their children with.  Just because you may look down on this kind of thing doesn't mean you should come berate others over it.

[preacherlr 614]

While I don't really think the term "childs gun" is quite right here (maybe starter shotgun would have been better?) it's really no need to get an attitude with him he is partially correct, I personally started with a 4/10 bird hunting when I was 9 and it is a very common gauge for hunters to teach their children with.  Just because you may look down on this kind of thing doesn't mean you should come berate others over it.

I don't look down on it, and I'm far from berate. What annoys me, Is a gun that's used, as you said, as an entry level shotgun, Often by teenagers, Get's the rap of " Child's Gun " Or is made out to be useless, or not deadly.

It's similar to the .22 lr's, They're deemed " A kids gun ", Because most kids learn to shoot using them. However most people fail to realise, A 40gr projectile coming at 1300-1500 fps is going to ruin your day, no matter where you get hit, I've seen a .22lr shatter inch thick bone at 60m, Seem not lethal to you.

Every firearm is deadly in the right hands.

[SaveMeJebus 164]

Ah ok .. thought you were coming from a different angle, I can agree with ya for sure.  Is why I said I had issue with the childs gun term.  As a person who was shot in the eye with a bb gun at quite a young age by my cousin Im a big advocate on gun safety lol Ahhhh the things our parents gave us as "toys" back in the day :)

[pilgrim* 3513]

Everybody forgot 'plastic bullets' ( including "rubber bullets", "sandbag rounds", etc )

 

They are a popular 12-gauge load where I come from (I don't even ask why). Most probably, people use plastic bullets because they don't like to clean up the big pools of blood and the extensive wall splatter if they have to face an intruder in the middle of the night, and there are various reasons an owner could be averse to outright blowing an intruder's head off.. yes?.. and in Europe shotguns are frequently the commonest and easiest-to-own weapon to-hand and available in 'home defence' situations)

 

In-game they could knock you instantly unconscious, for instance .. as well as breaking a few bones.

Now, that would provide interesting variety.

Up to 20 meters, a 1 shot knockdown with from 5 seconds to 30 seconds unconsciousness.

Edited November 15, 2014 by pilgrim

[Jhunt7507 29]

20 gauge would be cool but I never found them useful. The gun is so light that they don't absorb the recoil so it feels very similar to the 12 gauge.

Slugs and birdshot would be a nice feature. Birdshot would only be effective close range. (Don't say it's weak, search up "how I blew my leg off with a shotgun" on google if you want to see what birdshot can do at close range). Slugs should be pretty much an instakill if it hits the upper legs or anywhere around the torso. A 12 gauge slug has the power of a 50 cal but doesn't have the range.

Also some shells should be different lengths, the longer ones would be more powerful.

If 12 gauge isn't enough for you, then there's always this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4wssCnvuVbU

[d.walker43 196]

I realize I was misunderstood, you guys are right "childs gun" was not a good word choice. It is lethal just like any other gun. By childs gun, I meant that it is not really strong enough to hunt with, and is overall a weak gun. Definently still powerful enough to kill, just not the most practical weapon for the job. Sorry for the confusion.