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So with the new loot system it's extremely hard to find an axe unless you happened to be there at a restart and got lucky, which means it's very hard to get a decent fire going and it's just as hard to find a good jacket and get warm.

 

 

So we need things like already made campfires, old oil drums to chuck paper/books in, the ability to burn useless clothes perhaps even bodies, flint to make sparks maybe even magnifying glasses for extreme desperation.

 

None of these should be both reliable and safe, if it's an oil drum or campfire it's a static part of the map anyone might visit upon seeing the smoke, same with bodies etc. Flint would obviously be a hard way to get a fire going and magnifying glass even more so, but still possible.

Or perhaps scope lenses instead of magnifying glass.

Lighters too as a godly item, with rare fuel but still useful without for the sparks.

 

 

It's either some suggestions like these or make axes/firewood absurdly common so there are fires everywhere and nobody need ever worry about hypothermia.

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There should be more then one way to make a fire.  There should be locations on the map where you can scavenge flint to strike on any sharp tool to produce a spark.  Fire by friction, rope plus wood to produce a fire drill.  You would technically need a knife to craft a spindle.  Too bad we spawn in with a useless flashlight. WTF.  Sunglasses used to like magnifying glasses . etc

 

http://www.peakprosperity.com/wsidblog/79894/9-ways-make-fire-without-matches

 

So many guns to kill players but only one way to make fire.

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Yeah I would agree in having different ways of making fire, but keep them simple, after all we are supposed to be just regular people. For example be able to cut a Stone into 4 with a pick axe (1 slot each rock) and be able to bang 2 and get sparks, you would need something else to catch the fire, this would require 1-2 items more to make a fire, but it compensates from trying to just find a fire axe to cut down a tree..
Maybe add a Magnifier and that could also work in sunny days.
You can also currently search for sticks on the ground in the wood though, but not logs. So maybe do something around that direction also.

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Empty a Bullet of Gunpowder with Some Pliers and Use a Spark to Start a Fire Perhaps?

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A good one is a magnesium fire starter. The fire from burning magnesium cannot get extinguished by water so maybe add it as a perk to be able to make campfires on a rainy weather if they will implement the effects of rain to kill a campfire if ignited only by matches.

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The thought needs some work and solutions placed into it, but I completely agree with the idea.  I personally would not mind the ability to set brush fires as distractions that could burn off after a few minutes or during rain sets.

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We should be able to light trash cans on fire then feed them sticks,books and logs to keep the fire alive. In the mod, there were oil drums that could be lit to make fires with matches.

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The thought needs some work and solutions placed into it, but I completely agree with the idea.  I personally would not mind the ability to set brush fires as distractions that could burn off after a few minutes or during rain sets.

 

That would be great, there's many more uses for fire and other ways to create it have various uses too. Flint especially I feel is an essential item to scavenge.

 

As long as a proper log fire is always better it wouldn't make it too easy fires made with sticks should only last long enough to get you warm and cook some food no longer.

But beyond that I don't find myself having any need to make a proper camp fire, in a place I'm not going to stay for a long time it feels like a big waste really, for all the items and space it takes.

 

We should be able to light trash cans on fire then feed them sticks,books and logs to keep the fire alive. In the mod, there were oil drums that could be lit to make fires with matches.

Yeah that's what I was going for with oil drums, trash cans too anything you could feasibly make a fire in but of course there shouldn't be too many options available.

Perhaps with both they could randomly be filled with trash, so if they're not you need more burnable items to throw in like books, rags etc? That way they don't have to suggest there's only 20 bins in the whole landscape or something.

 

All the ideas need are some more negatives, perhaps if you're burning trash or bodies in a static area you risk zombies smelling it? If they don't just get attracted to the smoke the smell of bodies burning should interest them. Flint rocks could maybe break occasionally too or have a % to signify them chipping away to the point of uselessness.

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I'd love to see lighters beside matches.

1. Lighter with firestone and gas

2. Lighter with firestone but without gas

3. Lighter without firestone but with gas

 

+ Option to 'kickstart' Lighters 2. + 3.

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