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The Community's List of Suggested Weapons for Dayz Standalone (Version: 1.29)

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we dont need more military weapons as of right now. we need more civilian weapons, this isnt fucking CoD for christ sake.

I should of posted not to flame or anything, but clearly you started the trend so i will attempt to end it.  If you don't like what i put on this list then don't comment or stop reading it?  Also, a lot of the firearms i have in there are civilian grade weapons. Didn't i say in the beginning that i was still working on the list?  I am pretty sure i did. Please read more carefully next time and as for your COD reference, personally i think that game is complete horse shit.  Again, please read carefully.  Have a nice day sir.

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Quite a few good weapons on here.  I would say aslong as we keep them reasonable to the map in which we are playing I can agree with them.  This I liked best-

 

Lobaev OVL Hunting Rifle (.408 Cheytac, or .338 Lapua): Manufactured in the Russian Federation, the Lobaev was produced as by a small private company named Tsar-Cannon LTD, who produces long range sniper and mountain hunting rifles in Tarusa, Russia.  There are two variants of this massive rifle, however the second variant would fit the best into Dayz being that it is hunting version of the Lobaev Sniper Rifle.  Many sportsmen and hunters have bought the rifle due to its effectiveness against large game such as bears, being able to bring them down in 1 to 2 shots depending on where they hit the animal. Using the massive .408 Cheytac cartidge mainly, it is able to take down almost all types of animals that are currently located in the mountains or deep forests of Russia.  It would make a good addition to the game to give players a rifle they know that when they pull the trigger, the target is going down.  No matter if its a human being, a bear, or a deer, the player will be able to bring it down without any trouble of firepower. IMAGE: http://upload.wikime...-3-rifle-02.jpg
 
Would be a fun rifle.
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C96

Alright, I will add the Mauser C96 Sidearm next update. Thank you for your suggestion!

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Quite a few good weapons on here. I would say aslong as we keep them reasonable to the map in which we are playing I can agree with them. This I liked best-

Lobaev OVL Hunting Rifle (.408 Cheytac, or .338 Lapua): Manufactured in the Russian Federation, the Lobaev was produced as by a small private company named Tsar-Cannon LTD, who produces long range sniper and mountain hunting rifles in Tarusa, Russia. There are two variants of this massive rifle, however the second variant would fit the best into Dayz being that it is hunting version of the Lobaev Sniper Rifle. Many sportsmen and hunters have bought the rifle due to its effectiveness against large game such as bears, being able to bring them down in 1 to 2 shots depending on where they hit the animal. Using the massive .408 Cheytac cartidge mainly, it is able to take down almost all types of animals that are currently located in the mountains or deep forests of Russia. It would make a good addition to the game to give players a rifle they know that when they pull the trigger, the target is going down. No matter if its a human being, a bear, or a deer, the player will be able to bring it down without any trouble of firepower. IMAGE: http://upload.wikime...-3-rifle-02.jpg

Would be a fun rifle.

Indeed it would be a fun rifle. Thanks for your comment. I appreciate it greatly to know that my work is paying off somewhat now heh.

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Indeed it would be a fun rifle. Thanks for your comment. I appreciate it greatly to know that my work is paying off somewhat now heh.

 

Hardwork never goes unnoticed, have some beans. :beans:

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Mostly good, but heres a few that aren't quite fitting.

 

First, the area this game takes place in isn't the Russian Federation, so the MP-443, kipris PP-2000, PP-19, and OTs-33 which (execpt the MP) are virtaully only used by Russian special forces wouldn't be there. They are overly used in games like BF and CoD, increasing belief that they are standard issue.

 

Second: the OTs-33 isn't near as common as the cooler APS. The PKP is only used (limitedly) by the Russian Federation, and the older PKM is more prevalent there and elsewhere.

 

Third: PTRS? No. Long rendered obsolete, finding one outside a museum, let alone in working order, would be a 1/10000000. There may he a few PTRDs left, but none are used by any military force. Any surviving are in Afghanistan or Africa. 

FYI: Contrary to CoD, PTRS/D rifles cannot mount ANY optics without modification.

 

Fourth: finding some rare (Again, over-used in CoD) gun like the UMP-45 is virtually impossible in eastern Europe. Keep the guns old/civilian.

 

Pretty much everything else is great choices though!

 

I recommend researching Chernarus on the ArmA website before making these threads though.

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The two major problems i have with this list so far is the S&W500 and the UDAR revolver.

One the S&W 500 is probably the least exported firearm in the past 50 years and it's rare as hell.

Two nobody wanted the UDAR when it was first made, it was simply a answer looking for a question, mostly due to it's design and the fact that it needed several new calibers to work. therefore it would be made in limited numbers.

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I will reply to all of your comments, just give me some time. I am going to be taking a test that could decide my future here in 2 hours. I will reply to all when I get back. Thank you for your support and thoughts everyone posted on this forum so far. Its good to see a community that knows something about what I know and replies with respect rather than insult. God bless everyone.

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Though I'm not a proponent of adding many more military weapons (AK-47 Excluded >.> Love that one), there is an SMG gap that needs to be filled, and your suggestions had a few SMGs that weren't as common in games as say an MP5 would be. I like that!


>.> And that hunting rifle looks sexy.

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@ AlexeiStukov - it is a very nice list, well put together.  Lot's of information there.  Here's my feedback on your list:

 

I'm of the group saying we don't need several dozen ammunition types (which seems counter to what a lot of people think).  I ask in threads like these, do we really need 3 different types of 7.62 rounds?  Do we really need 2 different types of 9mm rounds?  These different rounds can't be "shared" because of dimensions.  Also, the more weapons, the more loot table dilution - it will become harder and harder for people to find specific weapons they are looking for.  Doesn't necessarily bother me, but it will some.

 

That all said, I guess here's what I'd do regarding ammunition types:

 

- Since the .22 LR is in game, I'd definitely add a .22 pistol and it seems the Devs want to as well - your MP-435 is a wonderful suggestion, as would be something like the Ruger Mark III.

- Since 5.45x39mm is likely coming when the AK-74 is added by the Devs, I'd probably also add the AKS-74U as a variant which could share attachments as well.

- Since people want WWII era weapons, if you're going to add the 7.62x25mm TT, use it for the Tokarev, Nagant M1895, and PPSh-41 - all popular on the forums

- Since 7.62x39mm is already in game from the SKS, adding the AK-47 or AKM makes sense, as would either the vz. 58 or VZ-805 assault rifles.

- Since 7.62x54mm is already in game from the Mosin, I would use your suggestion to add the PKP and I'd also add the SVD Dragunov.

- If we were to add the 9x18mm PM, which would make sense as a popular Eastern Bloc round, I would use your suggestion of the Makarov, possibly the OTs-33 or even the Skorpion vz. 82, perhaps one of either the PP-19 or OTs-02.  A lot of those Russian SMG's might not be too common, hence the suggestion of the Skorpion as an alternative.

- Since the 9x19mm Parabellum is highly likely to make an appearance, your suggestions of the Sig P226 or the PP-2000 would make sense, as would possibly the Beretta, the Skorpion EVO 3, or the HK MP5.

- Since the .45 ACP is already in the game, the Colt M1911 does make some sense.  Not sure about the UMP for reasons thedogfoodyayho mentioned above.

- Since the 12 gauge shotgun shell is in the game, I may add something like the Saiga 12, and we are likely to see another American shotgun like the Winchester 1200 or Remington 870.

 

We may see something like a CZ series Hunting Rifle adding in a caliber listed above, or even bring another ammo type in the 5.56mm NATO (for HK, Steyr, etc type assault rifles).

 

If we use all the listed types above, plus the 5.56mm NATO, plus the .357 which is already in the game, that is 11 ammunition types.  That is a lot.  I'd honestly say anything falling outside those calibers or using specialty calibers just shouldn't be added.

 

Your list is good, but I think you made the same mistake I did when first playing - I thought this was taking place in Russia.  It actually seems more similar to the Czech Republic, or another former Soviet Bloc state.  That is why NATO weapons are making common appearances.  All the classic Russian WWII weapons and Russian Special Forces weapons start to make a lot less sense when taking that into consideration.

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we dont need more military weapons as of right now. we need more civilian weapons, this isnt fucking CoD for christ sake.

 

In Chile, which is similar to Chernarus in some areas, there are plenty of military-grade weapon...M4s, Aks, HKs...so I like this suggestion, more weapons, specially when sharing ammo type...so you have a hard time getting the weapon + right ammo type

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Thank you all for your suggestions, I will reply to each one of you individually once I return home. May take a while for a reply because I am god awfully tired from the test I just took. Again, thank you. We will build this list together

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@ AlexeiStukov - it is a very nice list, well put together.  Lot's of information there.  Here's my feedback on your list:

 

I'm of the group saying we don't need several dozen ammunition types (which seems counter to what a lot of people think).  I ask in threads like these, do we really need 3 different types of 7.62 rounds?  Do we really need 2 different types of 9mm rounds?  These different rounds can't be "shared" because of dimensions.  Also, the more weapons, the more loot table dilution - it will become harder and harder for people to find specific weapons they are looking for.  Doesn't necessarily bother me, but it will some.

 

That all said, I guess here's what I'd do regarding ammunition types:

 

- Since the .22 LR is in game, I'd definitely add a .22 pistol and it seems the Devs want to as well - your MP-435 is a wonderful suggestion, as would be something like the Ruger Mark III.

- Since 5.45x39mm is likely coming when the AK-74 is added by the Devs, I'd probably also add the AKS-74U as a variant which could share attachments as well.

- Since people want WWII era weapons, if you're going to add the 7.62x25mm TT, use it for the Tokarev, Nagant M1895, and PPSh-41 - all popular on the forums

- Since 7.62x39mm is already in game from the SKS, adding the AK-47 or AKM makes sense, as would either the vz. 58 or VZ-805 assault rifles.

- Since 7.62x54mm is already in game from the Mosin, I would use your suggestion to add the PKP and I'd also add the SVD Dragunov.

- If we were to add the 9x18mm PM, which would make sense as a popular Eastern Bloc round, I would use your suggestion of the Makarov, possibly the OTs-33 or even the Skorpion vz. 82, perhaps one of either the PP-19 or OTs-02.  A lot of those Russian SMG's might not be too common, hence the suggestion of the Skorpion as an alternative.

- Since the 9x19mm Parabellum is highly likely to make an appearance, your suggestions of the Sig P226 or the PP-2000 would make sense, as would possibly the Beretta, the Skorpion EVO 3, or the HK MP5.

- Since the .45 ACP is already in the game, the Colt M1911 does make some sense.  Not sure about the UMP for reasons thedogfoodyayho mentioned above.

- Since the 12 gauge shotgun shell is in the game, I may add something like the Saiga 12, and we are likely to see another American shotgun like the Winchester 1200 or Remington 870.

 

We may see something like a CZ series Hunting Rifle adding in a caliber listed above, or even bring another ammo type in the 5.56mm NATO (for HK, Steyr, etc type assault rifles).

 

If we use all the listed types above, plus the 5.56mm NATO, plus the .357 which is already in the game, that is 11 ammunition types.  That is a lot.  I'd honestly say anything falling outside those calibers or using specialty calibers just shouldn't be added.

 

Your list is good, but I think you made the same mistake I did when first playing - I thought this was taking place in Russia.  It actually seems more similar to the Czech Republic, or another former Soviet Bloc state.  That is why NATO weapons are making common appearances.  All the classic Russian WWII weapons and Russian Special Forces weapons start to make a lot less sense when taking that into consideration.

Nagant M1895 doesn'tuse 7.62x25

And irl, theres a wide variety of calibers in use, though some are more common than others.

Mostly what you'll find is:

 

7.62x54

7.62x51

7.62x39

5.56x45

5.45x39

7.62x25

7.62x38

9mm Parabellum

9mm Makarov

.22 LR, short, rimfire

.45 Automatic Colt Pistol

.40 S&W

.38 Special

.357 Magnum

 

And i see no problems with having that much ammo. Theres more than 5 calibers in use, ya know.

It adds a new element, like leaving your M4 for a shotgun, becuase you have no ammo for it.

 

And this game DOES take place on Russia's border. It was part of the the Russian Empire, then the USSR until 1991.

 

Its kinda funny, i was just like you. Thought it was russia, then CZ, then i did more research, and its Russia.

The map is based on satellite images of the CZ, though.

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we dont need more military weapons as of right now. we need more civilian weapons, this isnt fucking CoD for christ sake.

but CDF, US and British militaries got involved so there would be more military weapons

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but CDF, US and British militaries got involved so there would be more military weapons

Just becuase theres a "UK vest" doesn't mean the UK was there. 

UK could mean anything with a "U" and "K", and alot of surplus items from Western nations are sold to other militaries.

If they add more British shit, then yeah. But rn theres only a NZ beret, probably only added becuase Rocket was in the NZ army.

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Its to much, I mean often when I find a Mosin I find just 5.56 ammo. Now Imagine all those guns you find a 9mm Beretta but you cant find ammo you just find 7.62x39, 7.62.54, 45 ACP ect ect.I agree with the 1911 beacuse its the calssic, and the 50cal turret fot later cars and base defenses. 

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Its to much, I mean often when I find a Mosin I find just 5.56 ammo. Now Imagine all those guns you find a 9mm Beretta but you cant find ammo you just find 7.62x39, 7.62.54, 45 ACP ect ect.I agree with the 1911 beacuse its the calssic, and the 50cal turret fot later cars and base defenses. 

 

I understand where you are coming from, but the idea of this game is survival.  It would be better to have the difficulty of finding the specific type of ammo for the firearm you currently have.  Yes it would be hard, but it would expand the idea of survival greatly.

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And this game DOES take place on Russia's border. It was part of the the Russian Empire, then the USSR until 1991.

 

Its kinda funny, i was just like you. Thought it was russia, then CZ, then i did more research, and its Russia.

 

 

I thought this was taking place in Russia.  It actually seems more similar to the Czech Republic, or another former Soviet Bloc state.

 

Hmm....yup, I typed what I thought I typed.  Former Soviet Bloc would be something like Belarus, Georgia, Kazakhsthan, the Ukraine, etc.  Czech Republic on the other hand was a Warsaw Pact nation.  I'd say both groups of countries were heavily under Soviet influence.  I'd also say Chernarus could draw comparisons from either.  Lastly, I'd also say a country on Russia's border is not Russia.

 

Also, I listed 11 caliber types, you listed 14.  I'd say neither of the numbers are 5.  They are also in the same ballpark.  I think we're speaking the same language here :)

 

Thanks for the info on the 1895 though, not too familiar with the gun; did a quick check and obviously misread.

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The two major problems i have with this list so far is the S&W500 and the UDAR revolver.

One the S&W 500 is probably the least exported firearm in the past 50 years and it's rare as hell.

Two nobody wanted the UDAR when it was first made, it was simply a answer looking for a question, mostly due to it's design and the fact that it needed several new calibers to work. therefore it would be made in limited numbers.

 

 

Hah, i knew someone would say something about the model 500.  I thought about adding it for weeks and i finally did, knowing that this would happen.  I will take it down now because i just wanted to see what the community would think and the feedback i would receive.  Thank you for your comment.  As for the UDAR Revolver, the calibers i list for it and any other firearm that has multiple calibers are just suggestions.  Say if they added a Bizon in .380 ACP instead of the other 3 i listed for example.  The UDAR was created to be a law enforcement revolver, not carried by the every day civilian, thus enforcing your idea of that it was made in limited numbers.  I appreciate your comment greatly!

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Hmm....yup, I typed what I thought I typed.  Former Soviet Bloc would be something like Belarus, Georgia, Kazakhsthan, the Ukraine, etc.  Czech Republic on the other hand was a Warsaw Pact nation.  I'd say both groups of countries were heavily under Soviet influence.  I'd also say Chernarus could draw comparisons from either.  Lastly, I'd also say a country on Russia's border is not Russia.

 

Also, I listed 11 caliber types, you listed 14.  I'd say neither of the numbers are 5.  They are also in the same ballpark.  I think we're speaking the same language here  :)

 

Thanks for the info on the 1895 though, not too familiar with the gun; did a quick check and obviously misread.

Glad to see the communication on my forum.  Feels good to know that people are actually engaged in the topic at hand rather than just going off on some random tagent or cussing you out.  What a great community we have on Dayz.

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Hardwork never goes unnoticed, have some beans. :beans:

Thanks for your support  :)

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